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凡是大于4的偶数都有素数对(因PDF格式文件无法显示,在109楼贴出了图片)

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发表于 2021-1-9 15:08 | 显示全部楼层
ysr 发表于 2021-1-9 11:25
额,已经非常接近实际了,调整一下,祝您进步,新年快乐!

谢谢好友,新年快乐!
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发表于 2021-1-9 15:23 | 显示全部楼层
ysr 发表于 2021-1-9 06:54
"谢谢光临和讲述。恕本人愚钝,本人还没有明白你所说的【接近实际】指的是哪个实际,另外,也没有理解到【 ...

"我算是糊涂了!  "/
是说我的猜想吗?逆推就是说理论上哥德巴赫猜想解的个数的实际值与理论下限值的比值的分子(还原为整数比值)就是双因子合数*2的偶数中的一个因子(或接近实际因子的试除因子)。
没有验证,有难度。
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-1-9 15:49 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 vfbpgyfk 于 2021-1-9 10:09 编辑
ysr 发表于 2021-1-9 07:23
"我算是糊涂了!  "/
是说我的猜想吗?逆推就是说理论上哥德巴赫猜想解的个数的实际值与理论下限值的比 ...


误会了,由于你的跟贴在本人的楼座中,且没有道明是针对哪个帖子的文静,本人就误认为是针对本人的主论而言的。
本人再明确地言表一下,在现今数学基础理论条件,根本解决不了【各有多少】个素数对问题,所谓的接近真值各种计算和计算公式,都会因数理条件的欠缺,都将归入猜想范畴。所以,凡是着手于此类领域的探索者,都是没有成功希望的徒劳。

回复白新岭网友:
我所说的【误会】。是针对前面引用语句发言者。

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说糊涂不糊涂是我在yes先生的帖子中说的。不知vfbpgyfk先生对谁说误会了。  发表于 2021-1-9 16:49
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发表于 2021-1-9 16:36 | 显示全部楼层
我是指yes先生28#(除去引用内容外,正文)的内容,比如后和前面的内容有关联吗?精确度的高低与破解密码有因果关系?
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发表于 2021-1-9 17:31 | 显示全部楼层
"我指的是:(比如......)以后的内容与前面的内容有什么关系?精确是否与用于破解密码有关联吗?不糊涂才奇怪的。"
我已经说过了,这是我的猜想,没有验证,主要是没有弄明白如何把精确的小数还原为整数的比值?
当然精确度与破解密码有关系,越精确则得到的整数越接近实际因子。
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发表于 2021-1-9 17:44 | 显示全部楼层
ysr 发表于 2021-1-9 09:31
"我指的是:(比如......)以后的内容与前面的内容有什么关系?精确是否与用于破解密码有关联吗?不糊涂才 ...

当然也可以不用逆转化,不用变成小数,直接把两个公式的结果取整数部分,把整数的比值化为既约分数(就是约掉最大公约数),看分子是否接近或等于实际因子。小数据的接近是没有意义的,只能用大数据来验证。

我说过了:仅仅是猜想,我还没有验证。
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 楼主| 发表于 2021-1-9 21:49 | 显示全部楼层
以2021年1月10日(20210110)随机地计算了间隔为2021012的92个连续偶数的真实素数对个数、平均素数对个数和下限素数对个数,并依这些数值作了张综合曲线图,仅供参考。

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发表于 2021-1-10 08:04 | 显示全部楼层
vfbpgyfk 发表于 2021-1-9 21:49
以2021年1月10日(20210110)随机地计算了间隔为2021012的92个连续偶数的真实素数对个数、平均素数对个数和 ...

先生好!您质疑我,0.9,原因是我估计正确率低了,我要说我正确率是0.95,49945/0.95=52573,你又会说我少了!
1. 我看了你的计算,你是在知道具体偶数素数个数的情况下计算的,不知道你就难完成!知道具体素数个数多难?
2. 再说,你这不叫连续偶数,应是20210110   20211012  30211014......20211018.....;如果计算连续偶数,你的波动素数对就反映不出来!
供参考,谢谢!

点评

怎么贴子不见了?  发表于 2021-1-10 09:09
发了点评后才发现,后发的贴子位于最上面,最先发的却位于最下面,所以,阅读时,还是先从下向上地浏览,这样才能符合思维逻辑。  发表于 2021-1-10 08:51
连续偶数是相对而言的,可以间隔为等差一个自然数的,也可以是等差为n个自然数的。所以,本人才事先明确地告知。若是从素数真实波动曲线角度而论的话,本人从实践中发现,无论以什么类别或间隔,都是极具相似性的。  发表于 2021-1-10 08:48
所以,结构式只适用于【力所能及】范围内的.计算。也是因此之故,才从结构式演变到求解素数对下限的论证,也是因此才有了对哥猜命题题意新的认识。  发表于 2021-1-10 08:40
你说的不错,在利用结构式计算【准确无误】素数对个数时,确实在结构式中有些变量需要运用复现法累计出相应真实的数据,否则,是不可能得到【准确无误】的计算结果的。  发表于 2021-1-10 08:37
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发表于 2021-1-10 08:20 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 重生888@ 于 2021-1-10 08:23 编辑

D(20210112)=5/4*(20210112+2*20210112/ln20210112)/(ln20210112)^2
                         =99891(对)
这次将正确率估大点0.94             99891/0.94=106276  也就是说,20210112欧的素数对真值不少于106276.

点评

这个回复系统不怎样,一是顺序不符合思维逻辑,再就是时常不能全面显现贴子。  发表于 2021-1-10 09:12
如果验证结果良好,那就要从最基础上审视论证依据,是否存在不可用数学公式计算的变量,如果有的话,那就要考虑自己是以什么手段和途径排除这种不利因素,考虑符合数理逻辑。班门弄斧了,请见谅。  发表于 2021-1-10 09:07
这个计算结果没有错,因为 D(20210112)=117033>106276。不过,不知你是否以不同阶段或范围连续验证了一些足够多的偶数?例如小于万内的连续偶数,数十万、数千万,甚至亿级的等。每段一般情况下都不小于连续50个。   发表于 2021-1-10 09:03
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发表于 2021-1-10 09:14 | 显示全部楼层
20210112的方根为4495.56581533404,方根内有106个总数有117033个:20210112=5+ 20210107
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后面还很多不发了。

点评

ysr先生的数据好详细呦!  发表于 2021-1-10 10:45
谢谢好友ysr先生!公式要全面反映客观规律!  发表于 2021-1-10 10:34
有必要这么明确吗?  发表于 2021-1-10 09:54
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